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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:09 pm

Any recommendation on who to order it through online? What exactly fails on them, there wasn't much play in it?

I was told it wasnt necessary on a new mls head gasket, if i was reusing it i would spray something on it. I know it doesnt hurt to do it, but is it necessary? let me know your stand on it?

when im forced to reuse single layer steel gaskets on pwc's i usually spray them with black spray paint and have never had them leak.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:11 pm

also whats the differance between s13 and s14s15 water pump?
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:30 pm

mattchow88 wrote:
Any recommendation on who to order it through online? What exactly fails on them, there wasn't much play in it?

I was told it wasnt necessary on a new mls head gasket, if i was reusing it i would spray something on it. I know it doesnt hurt to do it, but is it necessary? let me know your stand on it?

when im forced to reuse single layer steel gaskets on pwc's i usually spray them with black spray paint and have never had them leak.

You can get a water pump from touge factory.

S14 water pump offers a small adavantage over the s13 one. They are interchangable on each motor but go with the s14 pump.


I dont use copper spray on metal HG. Just put some RTV around the at the seams of the front timing cover inbetween the Head and block.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:32 pm

http://shop.tougefactory.com/products/Nissan-OEM-S14-S15-SR20DET-Water-Pump.html

i think its a few bucks cheaper from West Covina aka my nismo shop but id rather support the guys at TF.



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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:29 pm

After extensive research and talking with guys that bulid race SRs.....I chose to put Copper Spray on my last rebuild. I did NOT use rtv on front.

I have put this car through it paces for the last 3 years, and not had an issue.....But its your call.

I recomend www.FRSPORT.com better customer service that Touge.

The s14/s15 water pump is supposed to be better, but has one more hole for mounting on the block.....My s13 water pump was brand new 6 years ago and has held up well.

The bearing on the water pumps have been prone to going bad,
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:17 pm

have you ever heard of the impeller slipping on the inside? my car was running 97c yesterday and when i popped the hood the fans were blowing cold air. the passenger side of the radiator was cold but the driver side was super hot. its not leaking from the pump anywhere. just curious.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:19 pm

Impellers do slip, I've seen it. That may not be your problem though.

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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:22 pm

no coolant flow? what else would it be
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:26 pm

I'll pm you to prevent further highjack.

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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:29 pm

Well after making a tap and helicoil insert tool I got the head studs helicoiled. Next step install new valve springs and assemble the head!
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:09 pm

Something tells me these s13 and s14/s15 waterpumps are differant??

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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:38 pm

Here is some more progress
Head studs that I heli coiled heldup to 85Ft/lb woohoo!










still gotta figure out wastegate and turbo clocking
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:36 am

why did you use the old water pump? or am i just missing something?
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:32 am

Looks like s13 and s14 ARE different....Hmm.

Where did you buy pump from?

I would stick with the s13 pump... http://forums.nicoclub.com/water-pump-s13-s14-t263766.html#p2786226
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:22 pm

they are a lot different. i just put an s14 pump on my car. the s14 has an extra bolt hole but it effects nothing. it fits just fine. the design is much better on the s14 pump. it doesnt cavitate at high rpm like the s13 pump.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:22 pm

what are the 2 orange vaccuum lines hooking to? (not the ends at the throttle body, the open ends)
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:36 pm

^ bov & boost gauge maybe? They look like vacuum lines.

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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:29 pm

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they are a lot different. i just put an s14 pump on my car. the s14 has an extra bolt hole but it effects nothing. it fits just fine. the design is much better on the s14 pump. it doesnt cavitate at high rpm like the s13 pump.

Ive never had a problem with my s13 WP(knocks on wood)......And i rev the car to 7700.

Those are vac lines.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:54 pm

its a huge issue on fwd sr20's. thats why they sell millions of under drive pulleys for those. not as many people track rwd cars. prob why we dont hear to much about it. or it might just not be as bad. either way they changed the design for a reason, so i just stick with the s14 pump.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:13 am

lol i know there vaccuum lines, im trying to figure out where they go on mine. And i see he has them hooked up at the throttle body, but idk where they go from there.

side note, did you just tap your oil block for an aftermarket oil pressure gauge sending unit? I like how it keeps it tucked up close and you dont have to use any other fitting to mount it.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:13 pm

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what are the 2 orange vaccuum lines hooking to? (not the ends at the throttle body, the open ends)

BOV and boost gauge If I remember correct

and the oil pressure gauge was on when i got it, If you want i can take some closer pictures of it.


Also I called FRsports who i got the water pump from and they said it works fine they cant explain how but it does.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:57 am

I trust them....I have ordered parts form them for YEARS!

I might have to upgrade sometime.
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:23 am

s14 have an extra hole but thats it just put some rtv to prevent from leaking but other than that it works fine
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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:06 pm

ITS IN not running yet but IN!! Ill get better pics up later

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PostSubject: Re: matt's s13 sr20det gt2871 build   Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:10 pm

Progress is good!

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